"I think some part of being human is to seek other levels of consciousness. It’s human curiosity. If you watch kids play, they love to spin around in a circle until they get real dizzy, and then fall on the ground and laugh like hell. As soon as you know you can change your consciousness you want to do it as much as you possibly can. Because it’s fun. And it’s a human thing to want. I have no problem there. The only conflict is that there is somebody somewhere who finds that to be morally unsupportable. I don’t know why. Of all the things to decide, “This is not a good thing to do,” why changing consciousness? It’s people who have such great fear of the unknown. Of what? More light? More information?"